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kjv@2Samuel:1 @ @ comments: No doubt this is how David truly felt about the matter of Saul and Jonathan. He had repeatedly stated that Saul was anointed of God, we never hear him say that the anointing had been removed, we are not even sure other than by perhaps his own anointing that he even knew about the removal. If he felt this way I'd have to ask if it wouldn't have been better for him to have position himself nearby to come to Saul's defense/rescue if need be? Isn't it because of his self-preserving alliance with the Philistines that he'd become distracted and effectually eliminated from any proper service? I have often wondered whether God had moved David to where he needed to be or he had moved himself away from where God needed him to be.

kjv@2Samuel:2:4 @ @ RandyP comments: Keep in mind that we are beginning to see signs of a split in the nation between Israel and Judah. A split that will physically divide them in the next generation at the death of David's son King Solomon.

kjv@2Samuel:2 @ @ RandyP comments: As you would expect, things get out of control in a hurry amongst the prime players of the nation. Abner seems to be positioned as the one key player whose power and influence comes forth early, even more than David. He is never portrayed as a man of God that I am aware of, but, a force to be reckoned with to be sure. David must now become wise and politically shrewed.

kjv@2Samuel:3 @ @ RandyP comments: And so the fate of a nation in civil war turns on one generals desire for a woman and one leaders refusal to grant her. Abner knew of David's anointing all along; he later recited it verbatim. So then what was this horrid era in Israel all about? His power? His influence? Or was it Israel's deeper desire to split from Judah? Both?

kjv@2Samuel:1-3 @ @ RandyP comments: We need to see that we are at the end of one period of David from young shepherd boy to middle aged exile transitioning abruptly into the first of his king periods. Reflecting back on this period we see an odd collection of stories from which we form an initial opinion of David; not every thing is as we would expect from a man after God's own heart. Isn't that more because of our lofty expectations though? Really... what does a man after God's heart look like? I suggest that he looks a lot like David; for all of his faults, all of his meanderings, all of his awkward self imposed situations and reactions, he did realize his shortcomings and frailty and sins, confessed and repented and sought after the truest image of God.

kjv@2Samuel:4 @ @ RandyP comments: It is a frequent matter in the transitions of power that those falling from power are dealt with with death or exile or imprisonment so that they don't attempt to resume any form of power/division. It is just as frequent that ambitious loyalist take opportunity into their own hands as the two men today have. The new leader David had no such desire and saw through the career climbing initiative of the two plus he had an oath with his now deceased friend Jonathan to spare him and his family.

kjv@2Samuel:5:8 @ @ RandyP comments: This is one of those curious passages that calls for further examination. We might be too quick to judge here without knowing the fuller context. Is it something about these particular lame and blind? Is it that the Jebusites were using them as a defensive shield? Was this sanctioned by God? We are not told of David loathing lame and blind anywhere else in fact we see David going beyond the call for Jonathan's lame son.

kjv@2Samuel:5:13-16 @ @ RandyP comments: I do not believe these to be in any chronological order. We know that Solomon was born to wife Bathsheba who has not entered our storyline yet. They may have all been mentioned together just to have them all recited in one place.

kjv@2Samuel:5 @ @ RandyP comments: David as king of united Israel is shown going to God for counsel on who and when to attack. That does not mean that this is all that he goes before the Lord for. No doubt he petitions God concerning a great many things of national and personal importance. No doubt God is answering him in a similar fashion but, we are not privy to these prayers.

kjv@2Samuel:6 @ @ RandyP comments: Oh ya The Ark I almost forgot about it. David had it on the top of his list after securing Jerusalem. This was his first dealing with the ark and he wasn't quiet sure how and if to go about fetching it. During a mishap God communicated strongly the need for complete/unfailing reverence. Uzzahs reaction was natural, you see something tipping, you reach over to steady it. This is God's ark however and accidents don't happen, commands are not to be broken regardless, realization must be made that this object is supernatural and of the supreme sovereign God. The fact of Obededom house being blessed was a sign to David that he had over reacted to the occurrence of Uzzah, that it was now time to continue the retrieval.

kjv@2Samuel:6 @ @ RandyP comments: Michal's reaction to David may reveal much about her. Understand that she is no longer David's only wife. This is her second time married to David, her third marriage total. She is likely unhappy about a great many things. Add to this that she sees David's keeping a dignified public image differently than he does. It may not be her image of what a king should be that hurts her as much as her image of herself in the kingdom as a whole and in their royal bedroom privately. David see his jubilant behavior as "dance"/"play" before the Lord.

kjv@2Samuel:4-6 @ @ RandyP comments: Again it must be noted, the context of the Bible must be judged also in the context of the times. Modern readers judge David and Israel as being war hungry and blood thirsty. We have this notion that offensive military maneuvers are unjust. David praying to the Lord "shall we attack" and the Lord being for and ahead of that battle seems to us harsh and alien. The context of the time suggests rather that this offensive battle tactic was quiet common in the time, it can be described as attack or be attacked. Add to this that Israel is a land that has been taken from other peoples, people much greater in number than the Jews and that the Jews are riddled with divisions and idolatries, signs of weakness to any other aggressor. The question others might have is more on the lines of God has been with Israel undoubtedly but for how long? God is using this type of natural inquiry to test Israel's resolve and trust.

kjv@2Samuel:7 @ @ RandyP comments: For thy word's sake, and according to thine own heart... Theology wrapped up in a nut shell. If we were to approach all things with this frame of mind we would be the better. This is the "why" in "why does He do this" or "why does He allow this" or "why has He been so good". Righteous and just, merciful and long suffering, His ways each and every one are perfect and unchanging. He knows the beginning, He knows our end. He makes His promises, He fulfills each and every one. He brings us through and sets us apart as His own. For thy word's sake, and according to thine own heart...

kjv@2Samuel:7:10 @ @ RandyP comments: Before you feel bad for these enemies of Israel understand that there is something much bigger going on between them and God. These people have done or are doing something most likely in the religious/spiritual realm that God thoroughly rejects. Wickedness is not a term used lightly. We gather that from the time after the flood through the time of the wilderness God had been working to change the inhabitants ways to the point of the ground spewing them out. We know that Israel was commanded to put them completely down but had not. We know that God was displeased then with Israel and allowed these wicked peoples to remain in order to test Israel. Well the are certainly testing Israel now. What, we must ask, is this wickedness God is so against?

kjv@2Samuel:8 @ @ RandyP comments: These days then begin the glory days of the Israel like no other. What we tend to miss is the seemingly impossible odds of this even happening. Israel in comparison is so small to nations God is making to bow before it. We know of no special battle tactic or battle technology that is allowing them to do this. It is by God's hand and is meant to shown exactly as such.

kjv@2Samuel:9 @ @ RandyP comments: I am sure that the holdings David kept of Saul's properties were considerable. His giving was of great personal expense. His personal generosity to Jonathan's son heartfelt as well as if to Jonathan himself.

kjv@2Samuel:12:14 @ @ RandyP comments: Enemies of the Lord use this occasion against us to this day. It is presented by them that Israel was apostate and rejected of God long before this event and that God's effort had long since been with them and their religion. This would mean too that the blood line to the Messiah was no longer through David which would eliminate the rightful claims of Christianity.

kjv@2Samuel:11-12 @ @ RandyP comments: David's true remorse and repentance to God are evident. So is the fact that consequences were still to be had. Things were not going to be the same. We must consider our own lives in this manner as well. One does not simply get away with sin by confessing and repenting. Repentance/Confession could possibly even make matters on the ground worse on the outset. That is not why we do it though. We do it because we must and if we don't surely things will be much worse in the long run after our soul hardens. It is owed to God and to all those affected.

kjv@2Samuel:17-18 @ @ RandyP comments: Absalom may have sold himself successfully to the people as a much needed judge but, he proved to be to be a poor military leader pursuing into a unfamiliar thicket of oaks. He did not have the counsel of the Lord to rely upon and thus was left to the sorted advice of diverse causes and his own brash desires.

kjv@2Samuel:19:41-42 @ @ RandyP comments: It would again be right to mark this passage for future use regarding the coming division of Judah and Israel. When the time comes the thought should not have sneaked up on us. We are now seeing a steady rise in the animosity between the two.

kjv@2Samuel:19-20 @ @ RandyP comments: An illustration of how easy it is to remove a leader on the one hand and how much house cleaning it takes to restore him back. Notice that we haven't heard the Lord's voice for some time now? There is a marked shift of storyline. David I believe is more and more a shell of his former self; probably since the time of the scandal Bathsheba. David is bringing much of this upon himself. He is like a wobbling top knocking into all the objects surrounding him. The same indecisiveness that plagued his patriarchy is affecting his monarchy.

kjv@2Samuel:21 @ @ RandyP comments: Even after all of this time we are still dealing with the fall out from Saul. Israel had made a covenant with the Gibeonites (ill advised as it was) that God expected Israel to keep. Saul did not. So He expects of us as well. Another thing to notice is that we are still dealing with giants or the son's of.

kjv@2Samuel:22 @ @ RandyP comments: This passage is a psalm (a worship song) written by David. In it he attempts to reveal his deepest heart by declaring what he himself has seen God do, the character God reveals by performing these actions, the praise David offers to God for the real life/real situation/real people engagement God has had. David as king has been out on the very edge of the dangerous currents and momentums. He has observed many events with a military eye when situations were beyond his human control. We may not know this kind of danger nor this type of eye, but, God moves for us just as well. This psalm could have been written through a bakers eye and revealed just as much about God's mighty hand.

kjv@2Samuel:23-24 @ @ RandyP comments: There are certain things expected of a king kjv@2Samuel:23:3. We see the many valiant men of the king that would do anything for him even risk their own blood for a sip of water from an occupied well. The king therefore has such a greater responsibility and therefore has so much greater consequences. These things may seem strange to us for we are not kings. It may seem improbable to us for we are not of that age nor of that election. We tend to critic the oddity of the consequence rather than horridness of the sin was that God was addressing amongst the people. David's sin was ordering the census, the people's sin we must assume is idolatry.

kjv@2Samuel:12 @ @ RandyP comments: kjv@Psalms:32? or kjv@Psalms:33?

kjv@1Chronicles:21:1 @ @ RandyP comments: kjv@2Samuel:24:2-4 Suggests that David's men attempted to talk David out of this.